求大侠给个参考，是mazda3还是cruze，车款类似价格类似，请大家评判一下！

Faith. 发表于 2012-11-9 10:37
lancer的4B11发动机是棒子产的？不知道你从哪里听说的。。。4B11发动机来自日本滋贺。
另外，三菱开始造 ...

是鬼子产的，但源自棒子

现代 Theta 的 G4KF 和 lancer 的 4B11 是一回事

鬼子拿回去，小小的改动了一下就放在lancer上了

xp10302011 发表于 2012-11-9 10:21
woo！180！美女！你好high！我开福特雷萨（马自达的引擎的，其实就是马自达323的兄弟款），高速120，不会 ...

我也是。。。而且感觉油门不听使唤
声明哦。。。不是我开180，是我朋友。。。。
我还不敢这么玩命呢

syqwin 发表于 2012-11-9 11:56
是鬼子产的，但源自棒子

现代 Theta 的 G4KF 和 lancer 的 4B11 是一回事

你刚好说反了。。。G4KF是4B11的变体。

The Mitsubishi 4B1 engine is a range of all-alloy straight-4 engines built at Mitsubishi's Japanese "World Engine" powertrain plant in Shiga on the basis of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA).Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner (Chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai). The cylinder block and other basic structural parts of the engine were jointly developed by the GEMA companies, but the intake and exhaust manifolds, the cylinder head’s intake and exhaust ports, and other elements related to engine tuning were independently developed by Mitsubishi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4B1_engine

在车型上韩国现代起亚与三菱有着深厚的渊源，那么发动机肯定也不例外。现代G4KF/G4KC源于三菱4B11/4B12，现代G4ED/Belta系列源于三菱4G15/4G62，现代G6AT/G6CT/G6AV/G6AU/G4HC皆源于三菱6G系列，而现代Omega系列发动机则源于三菱8A80。

syqwin 发表于 2012-11-9 12:26
是鬼子产的，但源自棒子

现代 Theta 的 G4KF 和 lancer 的 4B11 是一回事

是HYUNDAI引进的MITSU的技术。现代靠的是引进三菱技术起家的。全日系车也就三菱喜欢卖发动机技术，从PROTON,到现代，再到长城。
况且三菱的VTEC还不至于要抄袭现代的。现代到现在也没有拿得出的发动机技术

楼上两位好专业呀，继续关注ing

naterob 发表于 2012-11-9 21:41
是HYUNDAI引进的MITSU的技术。现代靠的是引进三菱技术起家的。全日系车也就三菱喜欢卖发动机技术，从PROT ...

三菱的COLT也很不错。三菱的发动机技术称不上日系一流，准一流还是有的。唯一被诟病的主要是他家的自动变速箱，非常的垃圾。

viviancoco 发表于 2012-11-11 21:37
Cruze =Daewoo   Daewoo=

真的吗cruze是棒子车？不是都说cruze是南澳自己产的吗？

Holden has taken charge of GM's vehicle operations in Australasia, and on their behalf, held partial ownership of GM Daewoo in South Korea between 2002 and 2009. Holden has offered a broad range of locally produced vehicles, supplemented by imported GM models. Holden has offered badge engineered Chevrolet, Nissan, Suzuki, Toyota, and Vauxhall Motors models in sharing arrangements, with GM Korea, Opel and Isuzu-sourced models sold currently. Holden is also responsible for the distribution of the Opel brand in Australia.

持有股权，共享技术平台而已，没有什么好惊讶的，现在很多汽车都共享技术平台，比如大众和斯柯达。
cruze的亮点在于SRI和SRI-V，相信LZ懂的。。。

viviancoco 发表于 2012-11-12 06:39
do u know where the SA holden plant is ? have u seen what type of people works there?

Sorry, I have no idea about that. Could you give me some detailed information. I am so glad to know the truth of Holden Cruze.

Faith. 发表于 2012-11-12 10:24
Holden has taken charge of GM's vehicle operations in Australasia, and on their behalf, held partial ...

我懂！类似ford与mazda，问题是cruze是不是真的可靠，没有人会买一辆小毛病不断的车，不是吗，所以我发帖，就是希望了解实际两款车在日用中的表现如何。